Bets are won and then voided

If you are an experienced gambler you must have been suffering a lot from unfair calculation in so-called "joke" or "recreational" bookmakers as marathonbet, fonbet, bet365 or - the worst one - 1xbet. Some hold your withdrawals for 2 months like betcity, some capture your winnings and simply reject your emails.

Only few bookies left that have some reputation and not well-known for voiding bets: pinnacle(dot)com and Betisn

Recently a new darknet industry developed for those whose IP-addresses are not accepted by Pinnacle or for those who want to use asian odds from top asian bookies like sbobet, ibcbet, etc.

They are called master agents, who are more than noisy referrals promoting their referral links everywhere. See the rating of soccer brokers

Don't be encouraged. Nothing changed over the years. In brokers sportbooks still void your bets and winners are NOT welcome there.

"Acting on behalf of a syndicate" Ole777.com , the predecessor of Vodds.com was raided by immigration in Manila in 2015, arresting 73 foreigners from over eight countries for lacking valid work visas. After that "The Ole777 website currently featured a 'Website Maintenance' notice, saying it would be offline from Jan. 28 to Jan. 30 at 6pm local time" Another clone of OLÉ Group International Ltd was 7bet-sports.com . As their partners tell us, Ole777 is still marketing to China, Taiwan, Vietnam and the Philippines

Won bets are voided on regular basis

The reality in soccer brokers is profiling "winners" and marking their bets. So illegal sportsbooks like ibc/maxbet will see that you are winning so your bet will bet voided much more (~10 times) often.

Since I have won significant amount in a "joke broker" VOdds my bets are voided now on regular basis: 1 voided bet per week. After game result is known, bookie tends to cancel my bet since bet is marked as a bet from a smart punter.



As you can see the prices in shibo(ibcbet,dafabet clone) were not different from other offers



Of course, none of lost bets were voided as "abnormal". And never will be, because only losing bets in scam bookies like 1xbet/shibo/ibc IS normal

I'm sure it is a system of profiling punters behind it. Before that I didn't have sent orders RUNNING and then PENDING for 5-25 seconds in shibo, bets were confirmed almost instantly. It can't just a coincidance that at same days when bets started to be voided after game result is known, I got also hurdled accepting of bets as well (in shibo and sboibc, pin and crown are still accepted instantly).


Here's a list of mirror websites that VOdds are offering to use:

Do you think that legal company with a solid reputation will use a lot of mirrors to provide access for their website? Well-established company will use 1 and only well-known address(url).

It is a security question as well. It will be easy from a scammer to create another mirror like vodds10.com with alike interface and receive your login-password combination. It won't be hard to masquerade an email address in "from" section on email making impression that it came from vodds. When a joke broker Vodds is offering to use tons of mirror websites itself, it opens the huge backdoor to your accounts for thiefs.

All that coupons that typical soccer broker uses to attract the audience reminds an unsuccessful project desperately trying to achieve exponential growth to survive.

BOUNCE BACK TERMS AND CONDITIONS (25% of the deposit up to a maximum of €/£ 100) 1. You must have settled bets of up to twenty times your initial deposit amount and bonus before your winnings can become withdrawable. For example, if you deposit €100, you will receive a €25 bonus. Then, the total amount you have wagered must be at least €2,500 (regardless of wins and losses) before you can withdraw. The €2,500 shall be your turnover requirement, which will be calculated using the absolute value of all your wins and losses. 2. This offer only applies to bets placed via website. Bets that are placed using our API will not qualify for this offer or count for turnover requirements.

VOdds reinstates this new alluring offers monthly.

Referral links are everywhere. Even on the dashboard and the main screen of your account Vodds puts a referral code for you to attract new gambling addicts. "Exploit your friends! Attract them to a financial pyramid!" Isn't it a common case in the internet right now? Gambling projects are everywhere, none of them are based on honesty.

Vodds puts asterisks at crown bookie in settings marking that crown188(188bet,sing2) is known for voiding won bets after game was played, but at the same time Vodds is advertising crown without that important information!

See the price difference for yourself! Just place a check mark for CROWN in your account sportsbook preferences to avail these great prices.

Nothing was said in that advertising email that CROWN is designated by Vodds itself as a bookie illegally voiding bets after game result became known!

You can see here what audience is Vodds targeting with Ronaldo, Messi, Real Madrid. It's for profane/recreational bettors, not for winners. How it's different from marathonbet or bet365 advertising?

Almost all of users of Vodds are entering from the Phillippines IP-addresses, 70% of another broker sportmarket.com users are from Bosnia. They're looking more like local bookies, not worldwide service providers with reputation. For now vodds is only good as an agent of pinnacle, but you will have twice as higher limits if you register in pinnacle itself plus 40% if you take an referral offer (http://www.pinnacle.com/?refer=....) to sign-up, 3-4 times higher in bet-ibc broker(<-that one is in my blacklist, I have read a lot negative info about them). I am not promoting pinnaclesports, I have experienced some unfair bet calculations from pinnacle too. Recently Pinnacle updated its terms and conditions so gambler has now much more “has to” obligations and less rights. Here is a great video how journalists tried to find Pinnacles office in Curacao. Pinnaclesports pays the Curacao government just 2% of net profit, its an easy license to acquire.

Second and the last sharp sportsbook left these days is BetISN. But no broker is offering them, you can't even bet there. And I am not sure whether isn/sbc bookie after its long absence will be voiding bets like other ibc/maxbet/sbobet scam or not.

The long wait is over! Our favorite leagues and sports teams from around the world are making their comeback. We just want to let you know that you can now keep the ball rolling as BETISN and SBC resume offering matches starting Wednesday, July 22nd at 18:00 (GMT +08)!

Vodds support is not working between 12AM and 12PM CET. So you don't have chance to solve the issue quickly. Sbobet used incorrect result to settle the bet. You can't even send the message. You have to wait 12 hours before some phillippino support hopefully will pass the message.

It's very unprofessional to be out for 12 hours. Customer has no support, no way to pass message to the bookie. I have now bet in sbobet that was graded according to wrong result and no way my message will be delivered to bookie's support in next 12 hours. Mostly I need only bookie's bet ID, but I can't get it without Filipino's assist.

Look at that. I won't be surprised if sbobet intentionally put incorrect game result.

Inadequate support in Voidds. I had a feeling that philippines in support can't understand my question. Then more qualified support stuff came in and at least put some quotes from rules.

Vodds puts scam like E-sports which can't be removed from the dashboard. New games are added and interface get flickered and slowing down. Vodds deliberately slows down your action to promote that similar to stols and casino "E-football". Tons of useless E-sports cyberfootball(Fifa20,P20 Elite,Efootball,Saba International and other simulations) games are taking much of your time to remove that rubbish. Especially it bugs you on weekends when there a lot of natual soccer games playing.

Vodds fibs when saying that they are only an intermediate. Their role is above that. They choose to put obligatory rubbish E-football games on the dashboard. Until this year Vodds didn't even have setting to limit maximum bet! Information that Vodds provides about voiding bets is partial and incorrect, misleading customers. Vodds advertised crown but kept silent in that advertising email that crown is defined by vodds themselves as a bookie that voids bets after game is played.

I strongly advice you not to deposit to brokers like vodds. Juice is shrinked, turnovers are low, but costs for unfair sportsbooks and brokers are mostly the same.

It's a same lose of reputation both for vodds and asian bookies that are voiding won bets. Vodds is assisting sportsbooks and is profiling winners, I have no doubt in that. But brokers never provide you correct information how often bets are voided in crown(188bet clone) bookie, in wlg noname bookie, in shibo. How long will your bankroll survive if anytime shibo, crown or sbo may take your winnings away without any consequences?!

Recreational bookies like marathonbet limit customers, void bets and finally send "winners" away. All brokers I know are recreational too. Especially nowadays when bookies are sufferings unavoidable costs with lowered cash-flow. After covering voiding bets and stealing won money from me Vodds is better be called Voids. A joke broker Vodds is only good for 1-2 euro recreational bets.

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